Posted: 12:19 pm Wednesday, March 5th, 2014

UGA not the only program taking a hard line on discipline 

By Chip Towers

By now I’m sure you probably saw where Clemson announced the suspension of four players for the Georgia game on Aug. 30 at Sanford Stadium. Three of them are Georgia natives — guard David Beasley, defensive back Garry Peters and defensive end Corey Crawford — plus offensive tackle Shaq Anthony. They’re all significant players.

That’s a nice change for the Bulldogs, who have been mocked before by certain SEC coaches for almost always having multiple players suspended early in the season. Knock on wood somewhere, but at the moment Georgia will be missing only wide receiver Justin Scott-Wesley for the season opener this year. The Bulldogs would have also been missing starting safety Josh Harvey-Clemons, but he has since gotten himself booted off the team.

So I guess you could say Clemson currently “leads” 4 to 2 in disciplinary absentees. Georgia fans, keep your fingers crossed as spring break begins next week.

Clemson isn’t the only program dealing with early disciplinary issues. Tennessee has also found itself in the news this spring due to player behavior problems.

Linebacker A.J. Johnson, who is from Gainesville, recently got charges of resisting arrest and purchasing alcohol for underage persons reduced in exchange for doing some community service. Same thing for defensive lineman Danny O’Brien and just-graduated defensive back Dontavis Sapp, who were charged from the same campus party.

Meanwhile, Tennessee fans found out Tuesday that star receiver Alton “Pig” Howard is going to miss spring practice while “dealing with some personal circumstances.” No word yet on what those circumstances are but his status for the coming fall is indefinite.

Going forward, how second-year coach Butch Jones deals with these situations is going to be very telling going forward. And it renews conversations about how schools handle discipline independently from one another rather than having a uniform code of conduct along conference lines.

I’ve often said the fact that UGA regularly takes disciplinary action in and of itself is evidence that the Bulldogs run a disciplined program. To me, you should be wary of the program that never reports a disciplinary issue, that never sits players as punishment. One hundred 18- to 22-year-old males simply are never going to make sound decisions every day. Playing time is one thing they all covet.

For that, I think Clemson Dabo Swinney should be applauded. I also give him props for making the situation public in March, rather than playing coy about it until the game for some sort unrealistic strategic advantage. That misses the point, in my opinion.

Four Clemson players are missing the opener because they screwed up. Four backups who are minding their Ps and Qs will get a chance to step up. Good for them. End of story.

161 comments
Dawg350
Dawg350

It's looking more and more like Alvin Karmara is going to be a dawg in 2015! Alvin got smart and got out of tuskwoosa. Saban over signs every year.....no way all these players can get playing time.

Saban= slick snake oils.

Dawg350
Dawg350

Dawgs 41 Clemson 10

Dawgs 27 hens 13! Book it! Book it! Book it!

Dawg350
Dawg350

Dawgs going to win the sec next year....who cares about discipline....I love a good 15 yard personal foul! I love it......especially If it motivates the team! Go dawgs sic em!

RedandBlackDAWG
RedandBlackDAWG

rReading the childish exchanges of some of the folks that comment on these blogs, makes me proud to be an adult. Lets' see if we can do something unique on here, and try to comment on the article, and forget about each others personalities and supposed accomplishments in life. 

Jacobaaf
Jacobaaf

WOW, I guess UGA is a football school.  Great to go online on the AJC 3.5 hours after the men's basketball game at LSU and find so much info regarding the game.  Not one word!  Seems to happen when they play out of town, what is the deal?

HotDawg
HotDawg

Kenny Gaines and Marcus Thornton are excellent players.

HotDawg
HotDawg

Dawgs tie kentucky for 2nd place. Get 3rd seed in SEC Tourney.

Great season Dawgs! It's only going to get better next year.

For those who don't think Mark Fox doesn't land talent from the Atlanta area. Check out most of the starters. They are maturing into All-SEC players. And he did recruit KCP. He needs a bench full of players, like these, that will be around 3-4 years. Along with a couple of McDonald All-Americans would be nice.

Mark Fox is an excellent basketball coach.

And will probably be SEC coach of the year.

Dawg350
Dawg350

10 more dawgs till the dawgs take the field....yeah baby it's going to be great!

Dawg350
Dawg350

Who ROCKS the house? The GEORGIA BULLDOGS rock the house!!!!

Dawg350
Dawg350

Thomas brown is one of the best posters on this board! Thomas brown is the truth!

Dawg350
Dawg350

Richt is the best coach in America.......he doesn't cry about the rules and he is the best ambassador for UGA football ever. We gonna be in that natty! All you haters better realize that CFB is changing the favor of the dawgs!

DawgNole
DawgNole

gtcaryd: "Tommy Boy is back baby!!"

_____________________


Nope. Deleted again. First by Bradley, now by Towers.

They're finally catching on to his hatred and lies.


DawgNole
DawgNole

Dawg350: "Whatever.....Richt is still a much better coach than Dabo! Richt will prove it on the field august 31! Book it!"

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Didn't you "book" last year's season opener (vs Clemson) for UGA? Yeah, thought so.

By the way neither team will be on the field August 31. Now THAT you can book!

C-Kirk
C-Kirk

As Coaches, I have the most praise for Spurrier and Miles but as far as them caring to help their players grow as men with integrity and all the basic values needed in our society , they could care less. All they care about is winning. Both of these Coaches have the attitude of " BOYS WILL BE BOYS ". For me this is their biggest failure as mentors and Head Coaches. 

Obama_Joke
Obama_Joke

The title of this article suggests it belongs on The Onion since it is a joke.

Chrisxxxxxxxxx
Chrisxxxxxxxxx

Am I the only one that doesnt think Andy Landers coaching style and philosophy has just been passed with the times we have too much talent to keep losing like we do and letting all the top recruits in state leave Georgia?

Dawg350
Dawg350

I can't wait to be national champions in 2014 baby! Go dawgs! Nobody is going to stop that red&black from coming down the track!

slydawg
slydawg

My only issue with UGA and discipline is the program is losing too many elite players to discipline issues. I hate to play the what if game but here goes:  What if Washaun Ealy could have stayed, thereby taking the pressure off of Crowell to start his freshman year? How much better would Georgia have been, again, IF you had Crowell, Gurley, and Marshall the past two years? Ty Smith must be really good to somehow land at Alabama. Saban could have easily filled that scholly with a fresh player. Josh Harvey-Clemons (I offer no apologies and should have left), is the type of hybrid player you need in this new up-temp style of offense world we have today. This is the era of the "tweeners"...lol... Anyway, I hope you get my point. There is a gap that needs to be bridged between UGA's more strict discipline guidelines, today's kids easy going mentality, and their unequivocal understanding of how to adhere to those rules. Instead of random testing, how about year-round scheduled testing? What? let them know it's coming? Sure, cause only a true dope head would fail the test. It at last provides some measure of control. Develop some kind of rapport with players who have driving issues. The suspended license thing is ridiculous in Athens. We are expecting 18-22 to adhere to a strict line of behavior, one even more strict than their campus peers, yet when a coach yells at them, we say "those poor kids." We want it both ways and that's not fair to these kids, because that's just it, they are kids coming up in contemporary times. 


To contrast, on my second day in the military, you had some people from any age range who flipped out and wanted to leave and get out of their contract. They fake injury, play crazy, fight NCO's, curse officers.... all this after raising their right hand and swearing an oath. Compare that to an LOI.... Cut the crap. Georgia is losing too many players to weed, alcohol, and suspended licenses. These are childish incidents that can be handled better.

Desperado
Desperado

Chip, or anyone that makes sense, why is it that every article on the AJC regarding the Clemson players being suspended starts out with the statement that 3 of the 4 players are from the state of GA??  Why does that matter so important that it is mentioned in every article??  It doesn't matter where they came from, it's where they're at.  At least, that's what all the trolls on these boards profess when one of Richt's kids screw up.

SvenOttke
SvenOttke

Georgia taking a hard line on discipline.  That's hilarious!  What a joke!

Adamsran
Adamsran

Georgia suspends their players they screw up. 


Our kids hit a 100% Graduation rate for the 2007 class.  UGA kids are required to go to class.  There are punishments involved (game suspensions) if they do not go to class.  Georgia is consistently at the top of the conference with APR measurements.


Yes, sometimes we have knuckle heads.


It isn't perfect.  Better than most and I have no doubt that Georgia loses kids because of these policies in place.


Not perfect, but true efforts are made.  I'll certainly take it over what most other schools do.



Dawg350
Dawg350

Tampa..

Just wanted you to know that I watched a phython and a otter swallow an alligator whole the last two days on Facebook and I loved it! Haha! What a weak animal those gators are becoming! Lmao! Just like football! 4-8 and I love it!

POAD2013
POAD2013

Welcome to GEORGIA(49th in education) where education is at the bottom of the list of priorities and playing a GAME is GOD. Kids from Georgia getting in trouble at any school. I guess they learned something in the High School System of Georgia.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Some advice for all Coachs, spring break is coming up. Dont be stupid and hit your team with a random pee test when they return, I have seen that in the workplace done to employees coming back from vacation. Cheap shot.

Dawg350
Dawg350

Red and black

Listen I'm a old dog......I just don't like trolls...I'm not like you who befriends them....I have nothing to prove to anybody....I'm all dawg and we getting pie in the sky this year.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Dawg350  

10 more "dawgs"? 

" . . . on the field August 31"?

Huh?

Time to go back to school, buddy. They'll have all the "books" you need.

DawgNole
DawgNole

@Dawg350  

Far from it, 350. Far from it. Why do you think he's been booted so many times? Duh.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@slydawg I have never felt the need for random testing, something should have to warrant it.

DaltonbywayofBickley
DaltonbywayofBickley

@Desperado  As a Georgia newspaper with predominantly Georgia readers, it's standard to report that they are from Georgia. Facts are facts and to readers in Georgia, the fact these players are from Georgia is relevant. Best not to read an agenda into it, because it's just straight, solid news reporting.

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@ThomasBrown


Same reason there are no stories on the Intermural/ frat games on campus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Not enough interest to justify that information being assembled and sent out to the few!!!!!!

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@Adamsran


SvenOttke  appears to be one of those KNUCKLEHEADS you refer to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JimAB
JimAB

49th on what basis?  I just pulled up 2 rankings where Georgia was 14th and 17th.  Anyway,Georgia has some good interstates that can easily take your sorry a$$ outta here

MoistDawg
MoistDawg

if it wasnt for that GAME you mock youd have nothing to do all day exept watch tech loose again!

POAD2013
POAD2013

@gtcaryd  HOW is that a CHEAP SHOT? BREAKING the LAW is breaking the LAW and vacation makes no difference. 

I guess when you see St. Peter you will just tell him you did all your SINS while you were on Vacation and that makes it OKAY?

Dawg350
Dawg350

Wooly boogera

Who is mike Dundee??? Your moma?

Dawg350
Dawg350

Dawg nole

You need to see a therapist to help you find out who your favorite team is?

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@gtcaryd @slydawg


To give the players advance notice is about the same as giving them copies of tests prior to the actual test!!!!!!!!!!

POAD2013
POAD2013

@JimAB  Georgia is not even close to 14th or 17th in Education. What the hell were you looking at? 

I live on a farm that has been in my family since the 1870's so don't look for me to be leaving anytime soon. 

Dawg350
Dawg350

Poad..

I hope they throw a drug test on you at your job...you will be unemployed to fast your head would be spinning!

slydawg
slydawg

@Snagglepuss Your counter-argument is weak and you're just grasping for straws. A Pop quiz is not the same thing as a pre-determined test schedule. Hardly anyone would get out of college if every student took nothing but pop quizzes and pop drug tests, you freakin moralist.

slydawg
slydawg

@Snagglepuss @slydawg @gtcaryd  Didn't say advanced copies, I said open book.


Been there, done that!!! Ask your kids did they ever cheat in college? I bet there's a 50% positive response bare minimum


Been there!!!! Done that too!!!! Chump!!!! At Georgia no less!!!

slydawg
slydawg

@Snagglepuss @slydawg @gtcaryd  Didn't say advanced copies, I said open book.


Been there, done that!!! Ask your kids did they ever cheat in college? I bet there's a 50% positive response bare minimum


Been there!!!! Done that too!!!! Chump

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@slydawg @Snagglepuss@gtcaryd


They do NOT give them C O P I E S    O F    T H E   T E S T that they will be the ACTUAL TEST. At least not during my, and my kids, college experiences.


If they gave out advance copies of the A C T U A L   test everybody would get an "A".


Been there!  Done that!

slydawg
slydawg

@Snagglepuss @gtcaryd@slydawg No it's not. Before every semester, every student gets a syllabus and the dates of every quiz, midterm, and final. FYI, about 25% of every degree program contains open book testing... N

POAD2013
POAD2013

@Dawg350  I will pee clean all the time. I own the business and I will pee to match any employee that gets fired for doing drugs.