Posted: 6:51 pm Wednesday, May 14th, 2014

Bulldogs denied permission to talk to Tech’s Robert Carter 

By Chip Towers

ATHENS – Georgia wanted to talk to Robert Carter about possibly playing basketball for the Bulldogs. But Georgia Tech wouldn’t give them that chance.

Greg McGarity, UGA’s athletic director, confirmed Wednesday that he personally asked Georgia Tech for permission to speak to the 6-foot-8, 245-pound forward about a possible transfer. But that request was denied by the Yellow Jackets’ athletic director Mike Bobinski.

“Well, as per NCAA rules, we asked for permission to visit with (Carter), but unfortunately that permission was denied by Georgia Tech,” McGarity said Wednesday. “And that was very disappointing in light of the situation we had with Daniel Miller.”

Daniel Miller, a 6-11, 275-pound center, had signed with Georgia before Dennis Felton was fired as the Bulldogs’ coach and Mark Fox was hired from Nevada in 2009. Miller asked for a release from UGA and it was granted without conditions. Miller ended up transferring to Georgia Tech, where he scored 1,007 points over the last four seasons.

“The University of Georgia doesn’t restrict a student-athlete from any school that is seeking a transfer,” McGarity said. “The student-athlete’s best interest is at the forefront of our program. If they’re not happy here we’re not going to dictate where they can and can’t go.”

But NCAA rules allow schools to put restrictions on where transferring student-athletes can go, and Bobinski made no apologies for denying the Bulldogs access.

“Our practice has typically been to (not grant permission) to the ACC schools and anybody you play in a given sport every year,” Bobinski said. “We play Georgia every year. This is not something which is so much a Georgia thing as it is we compete against them every year. That’s a pretty standard industry-wide practice.”

Carter stunned the Yellow Jackets earlier this week when he announced he would be seeking a transfer. He was one of Tech’s most consistent players last season, averaging 11.4 points and 8.4 rebounds per game. He had the Bulldogs among his finalists when he was being recruited out of Snellville’s Shiloh High School.

Carter could not be reached for comment.

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150 comments
Eustis
Eustis

What if he decides to walk on at UGA?

Obama_Joke
Obama_Joke

The kid said his goal is to make the NCAA tournament...  Why in the world would he even consider UGA if that is a goal?

1980-was-so-long-ago
1980-was-so-long-ago

I think Robert Carter summed it up below:


“In this case, we’re going to disagree on how things are handled,” Bobinski said. “That’s fine. Sometimes that happens.”


Said Carter, “I’ve been at Georgia Tech too long to be able to go to Georgia.”


Asked if he had a message for Tech fans, Carter said, “Thank you for supporting me. I’ll always have a place in my heart for Georgia Tech.”

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

GTBob                                1 hour ago


"That is probably a good reason why you don't run into many UGA grads in the corporate world in Atlanta."

DawginLex
DawginLex

Delusional dog

I hope you enjoyed reading about the Donnan verdict

A lowlife takes pleasure in watching others suffer. Too bad he was just a victim just like all the others

I know you are disappointed

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

Robert Carter, how is this any different from when Georgie tek would not release Quincy Carter, whom they had signed to play there, too ?

TheTrain
TheTrain

If your scared, just say scared

Mikega12
Mikega12

GT sports and their AD are and always will be pathetic. No integrity or class.

Red-Dog
Red-Dog

Sour grapes from China-Tech nothing new here folks....

tomkat1111
tomkat1111

Tech is simply displaying in public how petty and small minded they are. They could care less about the player and just want to launch a zinger at UGA.

ARdawg
ARdawg

Who would seriously expect any different reaction from the classless GT admin? Not I.


GTRay
GTRay

Man, the level of discourse here is disappointing.   Hard to believe some of the posters are adults.  Can we just agree that every school has some fans that are less than honorable and also has graduates it can be proud of?  Having said that, just based on the sheer number of students at UGA vs. GT, and given how many UGA grads stay in state vs. GT grads, I would certainly expect to see more UGA grads in GA businesses.  I don't get the vitriol.  A good-natured rivalry is one thing, but demonizing, name-calling and sheer nastiness is more like what a lot of our politics has become. 


Now, my comment on the article.  Over the years there have been a number of athletes who have gone from GT to UGA or vice-versa.  Does anyone else remember another guy named Carter?  Quincy Carter, a highly recruited GT signee that ended up a couple of years later playing for UGA?  Or John Dewberry, who ended up as our starting QB?


I do wish players had more freedom re: transferring.  Our basketball record was mediocre last year -- without Trae Golden it would have been an unmitigated disaster.  However, when a player signs with a school, he/she agrees to whatever restrictions the school has in place.  Now, if the school does not make those restrictions clear (and in writing) to the player, then I think ALL bets should be off.  For example, back when Bobby Cremins was our coach, a Georgetown player (a 6'8" center) wanted to transfer to GT, but John Thompson refused to let him do so.  I would bet that wasn't stipulated to the young man when he signed with Georgetown.  But then Thompson turned around and allowed him to transfer to UGA.  


College athletics is not always mom and apple pie.  And it'll certainly be interesting to see what changes the next few years will bring.


And I'm sure someone will post something negative to say about what I just wrote.  So bee it. 


 P.S.  Before someone takes me to task for a perceived spelling error, "bee" was on purpose.

Realisticfan
Realisticfan

Techmites like to say this is a different case than Miller because Miller never played a game at Ga.  Truth is it is the same situation.  Miller signed the same scholarship papers at Georgia as Carter did at Tech. Except Georgia let him out of the scholarship, after it was signed, and never restricted where he went.  Whether he ever played in a game or not is irrelevant.  Having said that, who even cares where Carter goes. He is good, but not that good, or he would be going pro.

pharrb
pharrb

GT is an institution with class.  However, the transfer restriction does not measure up to an action by an institution purporting such class.  GT is going to lose the athlete - done deal.  Restricting his choices is nothing more than a selfish act to punish an athlete for making a personal decision which he regrets.  No school should have the right to restrict transfers within NCAA guidelines.  Stunts like these won't be tolerated if the players ever unionize, or the NCAA begins to care about he individual athlete, instead of the income the athlete can produce.

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

Way to go Tech. About time you guys showed some stones.

This is not about class, this is about standing up for Tech.

I wish you guys would show more backbone. 

Maybe the 1st time in 10 years I have seen you stand up to those 

humpers. 

ChuckinAlpharetta
ChuckinAlpharetta

Ah, the burden of class - Tech fans should be grateful their school doesn't don't have to shoulder that load.

reallygroovy
reallygroovy

this is a free country  he can do what he wants  , carter can go to uga  and Georgia tech cant do a damn thing about it, take it to court  and Georgia tach will lose again  to uga  as usual.

JacketTime
JacketTime

Hey doggie whiners, the author of this article didn't feel the need to mention that this is a completely different scenerio from Miller's, coaching change and hadn't even played a game yet as opposed to playing for 2 years and nothing being different from when RC committed. This isn't the NBA. McGarity is being a big a baby. He either has no brains or class to realize the situation completely different. Instead he chose to talk trash via the media cause he didn't get his way. Oh yeah very classy and professional.

96JB
96JB

Tech like most Democrats, love to TELL YOU how to think and act, but when it comes to THEM, THEY call the shots and make the rules. Typical Tech. Class always shows doesn't it?

foxdog
foxdog

What a classy move by Tech, why am I not surprised...

jquick5342
jquick5342

I almost feel sorry for the dwags not getting Tech castoffs - not.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

GTBob                                1 hour ago


"That is probably a good reason why you don't run into many UGA grads in the corporate world in Atlanta."

ChuckinAlpharetta
ChuckinAlpharetta

@tomkat1111

It's part of the culture at Tech; they obsess over Georgia non-stop as soon as their parents peel away from the rancid campus as fast as their four wheels will take them.

GTBob
GTBob

@Realisticfan  Actually it is very different. Partially because he never stepped foot on UGA's campus and partially because of the coaching change. Here are Bobinski's own words regarding it:

"Still, Bobinski said, the policy is not airtight. If an athlete were transferring due to a coaching change or if there were extenuating circumstances such as a family situation, the school would be willing to adjust the restriction list."

Tech has a pretty standard policy on this shared by most schools around the country. Sorry it didn't work out in your favor. That's the way life goes sometimes.

GTBob
GTBob

@pharrb  Then most programs and all of the conferences in the country have no class. We didn't invent this practice.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@pharrb  it is within NCAA GUIDELINES what are you talking about?


Students at PUBLIC schools will not be able to unionize. 

NCDawg
NCDawg

@WhiskeyBreath that is the funnisest post of all time!  LMFAO!


What would a sleaze bag like you know about class?  You have none.  Nobody is standing up to anybody.  The Tech fans are covering up their embarrassment that their AD is a coward.  It hurts even worse that their big brother exhibits the proper behavior in such situations.


I see a bunch of paper tigers waving their arms and yelling loudly trying to distract from the humiliation of their ADs cowardice.

WDE
WDE

@WhiskeyBreath how in the hell would you know if it classy or not WB ? You wouldn't know class if it was driving a blood red 4x4 F150 and yanked your trailer of the blocks.  

GTBob
GTBob

@ChuckinAlpharetta  Yeah, why can't we be classy like the UGA fans who defecate and urinate on their own campus before games? 

JYoung556
JYoung556

@reallygroovy  


You are totally correct.  He can go to UGA if he wants to.  However, what he can't do is play basketball for UGA.  Why?  Because he signed that right away when he accepted the scholarship offer at Tech.

ChuckinAlpharetta
ChuckinAlpharetta

@JacketTime

Not really - restrictions could have been placed on Miller's release, it happens all the time. UGA elected not to place them on the release, just as Tech had the opportunity not to place restrictions on Carter's transfer and chose their own interests over his.

Not so different, after all.

hotsaus
hotsaus

@Delusionaldog

GT Bob:

Georgia Tech gets the cream of the crop? That would be a claim true academic powerhouses rated higher than you in your own conference can make (i.e. Duke, UNC, Virginia, Wake Forest), not to mention the true top tier schooles.

hotsaus
hotsaus

@Delusionaldog

GT Bob: Are you also serious about UGA grads not being in the corporate world? Do yourself a favor and dont show your ignorance. UGA is more than well represented in the corporate world and other top tier professons.

Tech is located in a state that is politically ran by UGA graduates, where UGA graduates dominate the managing boards of accounting, finance and consulting firms, where UGA graduates dominate the boards of law firms, where UGA law school graduates dominate government legal positions and where UGA graduates are represented throughout upper-tier medical professions.

Tech and its inferiority complex ridden Techies always have and always will play second fiddle to UGA.

tomkat1111
tomkat1111

@GTBob @Realisticfan   It makes Tech look bad in the eyes of the public and you guys need all the positive publicity you can get.

KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

LOL....reminds of the old joke  where the down on his luck man was asked about why he didn't join the Church to which he replied....'well I would but with my luck they would unionize and go to hell".

WhiskeyBreath
WhiskeyBreath

@GTBob @ChuckinAlpharetta  You have understated their behavior.

Talk about arrogance, every time they come to Bama they trash it and expect us

to like it. 

Class, what a freaking joke. 

More like whitetrash. 

POAD2014
POAD2014

@hotsaus show your numbers.


what is a SCHOOLES?

KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

Well you just wait until GTBobby and his BOT hire Mike Leach within these next two years. UGA is no doubt in a great position with GT. Add a degree for Sport Management and Rap Music Management at GT and you might find that Rivalry heat up just a little. Truth is Mark Richt is in a geat position at UGA and he has failed to this point to really take advantage of his great fortune.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

@KeepOnSmilingWetWillie


There is no Rivalry between Georgie tek and UGA, with us having beat them now 12 of the 13 years Mark Richt has been our coach - there is only disgruntled dissatisfied Georgie tek always obsessed over Georgia because they've lost 7 football games in a row to us at their stadium named for a College Drop-Out.


That is not a Rivalry just because they're STUPID ENOUGH to put in their Fight Song : To Hell with Georgia like my Daddy used to do, showing what poor sportsmanship they "compete with us"  in sports.


We'd be far better off never playing them.


It's all they ever live for, to beat us once in our coach's 13 seasons, on NCAA Probation in Football and in Men's Basketball as they are and as they were when they beat us that one time out of 13 games.

KeepOnSmilingWetWillie
KeepOnSmilingWetWillie

With respect I disagree with the part about making GT look bad. Within 24 hours  this story is H-I-S-T-O-R-Y.  Alabama isn't allowing the cow college to get one of our players nor is Miss State giving Ole Miss any! Rivalry and it's going up a notch and that isn't a bad thing.

NCDawg
NCDawg

@GTBob @ChuckinAlpharettaYou don't know very many Georgia fans then.  And how can any Tech fan talk about class when their current football coach told fans to "punch Georgia fans in the face".


You lose again GTBoob.  Blind hatred lacks class and you wallow in your hatred.  For you to say anything about class is laughable.

GTBob
GTBob

@ChuckinAlpharetta Well if you say so. Im not sure anyone outside of Athens would ever use the word classy to describe any UGA fan. Sorry but the behavioral problems of your fans and team don't really jive with the classy concept.