Posted: 11:46 am Monday, June 9th, 2014

Tray Matthews’ dismissal not unexpected, probably needed 

By Chip Towers

MONDAY MORNING REWIND

Just got back from a nice, long tropical vacation. Anything happen while I was gone?

Kidding. Of course I heard about Tray Matthews getting his walking papers. News of a starting safety at Georgia getting the boot reaches even the most remote corners the Gulf of Mexico, regardless of how hard one avoids hearing anything of the sort.

Let me take a second here to thank the AJC’s Michael Carvell and Tim Tucker for handling the initial news of Matthews’ dismissal, and then offer a hardy dose of gratitude to our Super Summer Intern Tanya Sichynsky for getting to the bottom of the matter and following that up with a report on the adjudication of the cases against Matthews and three other UGA football players for those theft by deception charges. I’d say she’s got a future in this biz.

So, yes, there was a little news last week. And my reaction to the Matthews development?

Total and complete expectation. This wasn’t an “if” situation, this was a “when” deal. It was just a matter of time before Matthews finally tripped and fell face-first over UGA’s rules and regulations. You could see it coming from miles away.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Matthews is a bad kid. In my brief experiences with him over the last year, I found him to be very upbeat and gregarious and fairly forthright when it came to post-practice and postgame exchanges with media. But he had an other side off the field that became evident, one that I’ve seen way too many times over the many years I’ve covered college football.

He was a goof-off, a cut-up, a “knucklehead,” coaches call them. That’s not to say dumb. He just always seemed to be more interested in having a good time and enjoying the social side of college life than he did about the football and academic element of Division I college athletics. And it was always getting him into trouble, from dancing down the hallways of the team hotel after midnight before games to girlfriend drama to classroom misbehavior.

So few inside the program were surprised when Matthews was told to hit the bricks. And odds are very good he could follow Josh Harvey-Clemons and Shaq Wiggins to Louisville (though there’s also a chance he could end at Auburn, a very close second to Georgia in the initial recruiting battle). Cardinals’ coach Bobby Petrino and his defensive henchman Todd Grantham have proven more than willing to take in UGA’s disciplinary rejects. I haven’t heard much outrage from the Cardinal Nation, as it were. Then again, they didn’t have much of a problem taking Petrino back in.

For better or worse, my guess is three-quarters of the Bulldogs’ 2013 starting secondary will be manning the back third for Louisville in 2015. Time will tell who gets the best of that deal.

185 comments
Maxx
Maxx

I know this is old news...and we've moved on about this Matthews kid but I just had to get this off my chest.  Here goes:  When Trey came to UGA....many of the fans drank the kool-aid about him.  When he received "Most Improved during Spring Camp...I was shocked.  What did he improved from?  He was new to the system and team.  Other than putting a few good licks on unsuspected receiver, and having a well chiseled body, Trey Matthews is as empty as a bag of Lays potato chips.  His arrogance is beyond repugnant.  Someone told him he was a STAR before he made his first tackle and because of this, he became a celebrity in his own mind.  Final words....Good riddance to him and other showboats out there who don't understand and appreciate what it means to wear the G.

FLASUX
FLASUX

Weird how Miami aka "The U" made history winning with "bad kids"..hell, let's throw Auburn in that mix too.. not that I condone bad behavior for the sake of wins..I'm just sayin'.. weird.

Wish CMR would tell these kids to hit said bricks way more often. Also, defensive coordinators.

D-Sheets
D-Sheets

Total and complete expectation. This wasn’t an “if” situation, this was a “when” deal. It was just a matter of time before Matthews finally tripped and fell face-first over UGA’s rules and regulations. You could see it coming from miles away.


Don’t get me wrong. I don’t think Matthews is a bad kid.

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Sorry, Chip, but you don't get to say he's a bad kid then turn around and take it back in the next sentence.


He's a bad kid.  Plain & simple.  And now, since his only "punishment" is that he'll most likely transfer to either Auburn or Louisville (Petrino & Grantham), let's not assume he'll clean-up his act. 

Classof98
Classof98

What does being "gregarious" and "forthright" have to do with not being a bad kid?  Al Capone was "gregarious" and "forthright".


I don't know Trey Matthews, other than he tried to double-dip checks, he cursed out a professor and he tried to intercept a hail mary when a simple incompletion would have won the game.


Do I think he's a bad kid?  I don't have enough information.  Does that fact that he is "gregarious" and "forthright" prove that he is not a bad kid?  Nah.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

Obama, education, Unions, cheating colleges, man yall been having fun on this blog. Chip better get a 10 at 10 going.

RedandBlackDAWG
RedandBlackDAWG

I hear there is a Kentucky WR that got caught with the weed along with a player from Louisville as well. Maybe Louisville will have a new WR in a couple of weeks.  The only question I have is what way do the stripes go on the uniform, vertical or horizontal.

Delusionaldog
Delusionaldog

Taking bets on whether Mathews is in the first five or second five in the next 10@10 - whenever that might happen. 

TheOldGuy
TheOldGuy

Another AJC article about Tray Mathews? Really? That's only about eight...so far.

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

How can we discuss Moral Compass of College Football and not one person in 84 saying one stinking word about the won/lost record for Mark Richt the 2nd half his career here ?

HotDawg
HotDawg

Time for a new 10 at 10

DawgNole
DawgNole

Welcome back. Bet that tropical vacation went by in a hurry.

HotDawg
HotDawg

Chip, your intern did a great job. Wondered who she was.

And always, kudos to Tim Tucker. He's done an excellent job for years at the AJC.

Furrdaddy
Furrdaddy

Ole ' Tray knows if he goes to Auburn, that they will write him a check and he won't have to resort to criminal behavior to get paid.

cmac22
cmac22

Wiggins got beat out by a walkon, so no real loss there.  Clemons spent too much time "in the clouds" and was already slated to miss 4 games (or more).  Matthews had very little ball skills (although, when healthy, could hit!).  Don't really see what all the crying is about.  The defense was not good last year, so why does everyone want the same group back?


Clemons missed 3 games last year.  Matthews had only 23 tackles!!!  Those two defensive stalwarts combined for one of the WORST defensed pass plays in the history of college football.


Good riddance to all of them.  They can follow their mentor to louisville & continue to underachieve while being undercoached!!  Speaking of that clown grantham, I hear the folks at Winn Dixie in Athens really miss him & his shopping sprees!!!

JaySly
JaySly

auburn or lville will take any player with a pulse if they are good--stick them with some special "tutors" and a bunch of mickey mouse classes to stay eligible somehow====winning is all that matters.

gtcaryd
gtcaryd

@RedandBlackDAWG Caught with weed! Why didn't they just take them out back and shoot them, good grief!

POAD2014
POAD2014

@TheOldGuy the AJC has to talk about ANYTHING about the MUTTS......the funny thing is the MUTT players keep getting in trouble so that allows the MUTT LOVING AJC to Keep the dWags on the page and that means WEB HITS to SELL ADVERTISING 


Nobody........all you MUTT LOVERS didn't even respond or give condolences for the MOM of the uga tradition. Why  didn't you dWag POS say prayers and give respect to Mrs Sieler? You POS punks would rather talk SMACK about NOTHING than to pay respects to the LADY that CREATED the "uga" tradition.

GwinnettDad
GwinnettDad

@TheOldGuy That's the  AJC.  If a third string water boy has a hang nail, that's good for headlines for a week.  

DawginLex
DawginLex

@ThomasBrown  I think there is a better way to look at this


Clearly 2010 was the low point for Richt. The AD decided to stand by him.

2011 10-4

2012 12-2

2013  8-5


So the question is, was 2013 a fluke in a pattern of double digit win seasons?

or

Was 2012 the high water mark of the new Mark Richt era at UGA and will the powers in charge be ok with that?



Juniper63
Juniper63

Pathetically wrong and from a jealous bad sport loser.. Auburn doesn't pay anyone . That was proven by extensive investigation and yall still can't stand it.Add the success of Nick Marshall -- blemish free in Auburn-- and the jaw dropping win last year and your ignorant head is about to explode-- fact is UGA seems to at least enable thug behavior and AU successfully turns them into good citizen winners.I withhold all judgment on Matthews until he proves himself but you let him do one idiotic thing and he will be gone.Malzahn runs a tight ship.

GwinnettDad
GwinnettDad

@cmac22 Exactly.  How can a defensive secondary be any worse than last year, with some of the dumbest, most inept, most pitiful plays in the history of the universe, not just college football?

GetontheGusBus
GetontheGusBus

@4Slide So if another team picks up a player from UGA, they are the bad guys!!!! If a kid leaves UGA he shouldn't get a second chance to play again is the UGA fan rule. lol

POAD2014
POAD2014

@4Slide what SEC team do you cheer for that isn't EXACTLY the same as you just described for Auburn and Louisville?

RedandBlackDAWG
RedandBlackDAWG

@gtcaryd @RedandBlackDAWG  If you are too dumb to realize that it is still illegal in Georgia then perhaps you need to be the one taken out back and shot. No matter what your feelings are about the legality of the substance, it is still illegal and it is still a crime. He knew it was, and he made the decision to break the law. You still do not have the right to decide what laws to abide by in society.

RedandBlackDAWG
RedandBlackDAWG

@POAD2014  How do you know that some of the folks didn't give their condolences privately in messages and sentiments directly to the family?  As usual, once again, the taste of shoe leather becomes a familiar one for you.

If you are so concerned about the AJC, as a business making money, which I believe is the primary reason to own most businesses, then why contribute so heavily to the mission with your constant trash talking about the fans and the UGA team.

UgaAllTheWay
UgaAllTheWay

@POAD2014 You're just upset that your crappy team is going to be........ wait for it ......... crappy again.  You're team will always be the bottom-feeder.  Go to your joke next to Coke, get your 4 tickets, 4 hot dogs, 4 cokes, and cheer for your joke of an offense.


We all posted condolences upon hearing of her death.

FLASUX
FLASUX

Somebody needs a hug.

Snagglepuss
Snagglepuss

@POAD2014 


I bet my last dime that POAD(aka  TOADY  BOY) is a middle school dropout. Proof positive is his/her/its  limited use of words found in the English language/dictionary.


Caught with a huge lack of anything worthwhile(which is normal for this Single Digit IQ owner) to share he/she/it erupts with filth(disguised)  about a sensitive subject pertaining to the Sieler family.


There were hundreds of DawgNation members posting respects to the  E N T I R E 

Sieler family , not to mention hundreds of thousands/millions across the country and the planet yet he/she/it tries to use a bunch of lies to cause resentment which is A L W A Y S  the way with trolls, fools and idiots(with apologies to trolls, fools and idiots)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ThomasBrownUGA
ThomasBrownUGA

Well, when you're 54-26 the second half of your career here when you were 16-13 your 1st 29 games vs teams ranked those seasons and only 7-22 the most recent latest 29 games vs teams ranked these seasons, you have to expect a certain bit of scrutiny on the subject.


It's not like Mark Richt's recruiting rankings have been poor, or even dropped-off but are instead holding steady in fact.


So, why can't we win ?


Seems obvious to report on article after article after article.


Better get used to it with all the top 10 teams we would face in year one of the play-offs.


Someone has to write about all our losses, as they are piling-up and getting quite old.

Delusionaldog
Delusionaldog

@DawginLex 


Quite a record for this vicinity. 


I'll go with high water mark. 


But, who asked me, anyway?

FLASUX
FLASUX

Beat by Mizzu, at home, by a second string QB, and DB's who stood and watched pass completions in front of them.

Hit the Bricks indeed.

RedandBlackDAWG
RedandBlackDAWG

@GetontheGusBus @4Slide  Check the record. He had more than a second chance and he blew that as well. He chose his path, not UGA coaches. Discipline is part of growing up as well. Perhaps you are lacking in that area as well.

HotDawg
HotDawg

Poad...why don't you ask N. Carolina and ACC the same?

Don't be too high and mighty jerk.

RangeRover
RangeRover

@POAD2014

Name a player UGA has taken that was a disciplinary problem at another school?

FLASUX
FLASUX

Like most statistics, they are usually decieving when taken at face value. Unless you are going to show several other coaches records utilizing the same parameters, it tells us nothing meaningful. No diff than me saying his win percentage is right at 75%...

DawginLex
DawginLex

@Delusionaldog @DawginLex 


Shortest books ever written


My Plan for SEC Domination at UT

by Lane Kiffin


Beating Ranked teams at Ohio State

by Urban Meyer


You Can Live up to the Daddy Hype

by Derek Dooley


Gatorade Baths during the Game are not bad luck

by Guy Morriss

Contractor1
Contractor1

Christian Lemay, there's one for you. Took me a whopping two seconds to think of that one.

POAD2014
POAD2014

@RangeRover they TOOK the DISCIPLINE problems straight from HIGH SCHOOL...............UGa did the VETTING PROCESS BAD so the kid had to move on. IF UGa actually recruited(VETTED) better they wouldn't have 50-60 players gone the last 6 years.............

TattDawg
TattDawg

@Contractor1  Really ???


You have got to be a Tech guy.  I feel sorry for your kids.

DawgGoneIt
DawgGoneIt

@Contractor1 Christian LeMay signed with UGA out of high school idiot. UGA didn't "take him" from another school after being disciplined.

RugbyDawg
RugbyDawg

@POAD2014 And the same kids recruited by every other top 15 program in the nation.  Your arguments are terrible. Please stop talking Troll, and go drink some more weaksauce.

HotDawg
HotDawg

Name a problem he had in high school poad.